I was totally gobsmacked yesterday on a troll through Facebook at finding my ladybird pattern on one of the tatting lists.
It was printed and obviously came from a publication of some sort. I left a 'strong' message on the list and the person who put it there took it off immediately. I also contacted that person privately too and they confirmed the name of the Italian magazine that it's in. I am truly, truly grateful to the tatter who removed the post and for their wonderful help in confirming the magazine. It's called 'Il Mio Chiacchierino'. Here's the link.
If ANYBODY has a copy of this and is willing to sell it to me or scan and send me a copy then I'd be very grateful.
If ANYBODY has a copy of this and is willing to sell it to me or scan and send me a copy then I'd be very grateful.
I can also prove when the pattern was uploaded onto a previous site I had (thank you, wayback machine) and it was put up on the 20th July 2001. Again, here's the link. The reason for me mentioning it is to see if I can get anymore information from anybody reading my blog about who publishes it and to find out if there are anymore stolen patterns in there too.
I have used a translator to translate the page and it appears to be the first in a series of magazines. I hope that by stopping and stomping on this NOW we can prevent others from being as hurt as I am.
I have used a translator to translate the page and it appears to be the first in a series of magazines. I hope that by stopping and stomping on this NOW we can prevent others from being as hurt as I am.
Sorry this post isn't in my usual lighthearted manner but I'm upset and ANGRY.
The same occured to Barbara Payne, with her owl pattern... An Italian tatter toke this one and the turtle fon HandyHands and let them published under his name... Sad. One pair of earrings I made more than 1 year ago appears on the cover of a recent Italian book, sold by Hanhyhands... Nothing more to say.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is, Corina, that it's easier to forget it and 'let it go'. This then means that more publishers will do the same thing. I HATE confrontation but needs must sometimes.
DeleteSo sorry to hear this Jane :(. I hope you are able to get in touch with the magazine and sort it out with the publishers.
ReplyDeleteJenn, I've had a reply from the magazine and we're now 'in discussion' over the matter!!!
DeleteThat beggars belief - that a publisher would steal your pattern for his or her own gain - but I suppose they gambled on you never finding out about it. Can't assume that, these days, as they should know. I hope you're able to get it sorted without too much expense.
ReplyDeleteThere's a thread on In Tatters about the owl pattern theft, also an Italian magazine, under the name of a man. I don't know if it's the same magazine, the same man, but it may be worth your while to check on In Tatters for the story. Really very wrong.
ReplyDeleteJust off to have a look. Thanks, Jane.
DeleteThe gold earrings in the bottom corner are a Celtic pattern from Tatting for Pleasure by Peel.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Susie. You're right and I've passed the information on to the publisher too.
DeleteThe Facebook thread: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=675975489112046&set=gm.743202222364991&type=1&theater.. part of it, at least.
ReplyDeleteWow - I'm not the only one who's had problems, then. Thank you for your support, Corina.
DeleteI wonder how many MORE stolen patterns are in the same magazine.... You're right - if it's not stopped, they'll just keep on doing it, and it's WRONG.
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hope all of you get the credit you deserve!!!!!
ReplyDeletegood luck
No! Jane, you are not alone as I have also been informed not only has my little owl earring pattern been printed but also one of Martha Ess's pattern and Marilee Rockley's. Not sure which ones or if this is true but, if it is the same man something has to be done! I wrote to the magazine also but, did not get a reply so I am glad to hear you are in touch with them. I also left a message for Ivan and let him know the pattern was mine. He removed the post and made no reply.
ReplyDeleteMust admit, Barbara, that this magazine is at least talking even if they can't 'see' the problem. I think they're now beginning to realise I won't let it go!!! The internet and Mr Google are wonderful things for finding out who and what has gone on!!!! I read about your owl today on Facebook and about Ivan too.
DeleteSo sorry to hear about this, Jane. Tattabugg had the same problem with her "Little Owl" pattern. He goes by the name of Ivan. I went back over his facebook page to see if the picture of the magazine was still there, but I could not find the picture. He may have removed it from his page. Here is a link to his facebook page that was posted on InTatters: https://www.facebook.com/GliIntrecci...ation=timeline Also, I saw photos of Anne Bruvold's Chinese Dragon, and an angel facing sideways holding a candle. Sorry I can't remember the designer.
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Thanks rsmre but it isn't Ivan who's taken it this time - it's another person!!! I'm gradually getting the full picture of what happened and at least the magazine is talking to me even though they originally insisted it wasn't my copyright!!!
DeleteI agree with StephanieW, who knows how many patterns he has passed off as his own. With all of these stolen patterns, he's touting himself as a god of tatting design. Well, guess what, there are too many of us, and we are organized!
ReplyDeleteIts infuriating that someone tries to profit from patterns you're shared with us for free- A gift from you to tatters. I don't think its hard to ask for permission to use a pattern. You're pretty easy to contact.
ReplyDeleteI think that's what annoys me most, victats. The fact that somebody benefits financially from something I think should be free to all.
DeleteSadly, this is why I refuse to post my patterns. The only one I have up is my nativity that is on Georgia's site, and that's the only one that ever will go up.
ReplyDeleteThat's SUCH a shame, Jenni as this sort of thing doesn't happen very often. Twice it's happened to me in about 18 years (that I know of). I bet your patterns are wonderful too.
DeleteI'm sorry that this happened to you Jane. I am so happy that you handled it the way you did. GOOD FOR YOU.
ReplyDeleteAh, Monica, I'm still 'handling' it. The story will continue tomorrow - watch this space!!!
DeleteOh, my apologies to Ivan, then. Glad to hear that the magazine is cooperating with you.
ReplyDeleteRosemarie.