When I saw this post the other day I thought it looked rather familiar!!!! So, off I went on a voyage of discovery.
This design must be at least twenty years old now and is now on it's third re-generation. The first generation of this was done on a fancy metal finding and was submitted to a magazine along with three others. The findings were quickly unobtainable so after a few years I decided to put them onto cabone rings (second generation!) which are easily obtainable and thus the pattern on my site was 'born again'!!!
Now having seen Frivole's 'take' on the same one I thought I'd re-re-revisit it once more (third generation). SO, in a couple of days time I'll get the pattern up on the web site - for free, of course!!! Meanwhile I may tweak the centre but I quite like the shapes I've got here. Maybe I'll make those chains a bit longer/shorter? Who knows.
The thread is some I had from Eda and it's lovely to work with. The beads are so, so glittery too. Sadly the scans don't give the true sparkle.
The thread is some I had from Eda and it's lovely to work with. The beads are so, so glittery too. Sadly the scans don't give the true sparkle.
The bottom scan is very sparkly - pretty thread.
ReplyDeleteFabulous sparkly stars!!! :)
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely LOVELY! I LOVE the third generation, especially because I have trouble getting even cabone rings in the correct sizes. THANKS once again Jane!
ReplyDeletePretty star, Jane. But I've been thinking,,,I think there are a ton of very similar patterns out there that are much like this one. I mean how many deviations can one make on a five-point stacked tatted star! It's kind of like those simple ring and chain borders. They are all alike, with maybe a few ds difference. Not terribly unique.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, Fox but 20 years or so ago it WAS unique an it WAS mine and mine alone. SELLING something that's already 'out there' as your 'own' is not very fair on people in my opinion. Cheating, in fact.
DeleteActually, your pattern is very like the 3rd medallion of the 2nd column on page 21 of my copy of Anne Orr's "Classic Tatting Patterns"...that one has center rings instead of a cabone, but otherwise, they are nearly indistinguishable.
DeleteIt does have it's similarities, I agree, but as I did mine at least 20 years ago before the internet was easily accessed I wouldn't have known about it or have been able to find a copy of the book easily. Back in those 'old days' to add beads to tatting was virtually unheard of either. Tthere are similarities between mine and Anne's but also a lot of differences - including the cabone ring. Lovely to have hindsight and thanks for your comment, Susie.
DeleteBut that would mean every plain, stocking stitch long-sleeved, knitted pullover pattern was a copyright infringement. I'm not being bloody-minded here - honest! - just trying to be critically realistic! 😊😳
ReplyDeleteSo you're saying that it's OK to take any design and just call it your own? I've actually never mentioned copyright infringement anyway. All I'm trying to do is stop people parting with money for something that's already out there for free.
DeleteOf course not, Jane! Obviously not.
DeleteHowever, I do think it is appropriate for a designer to use an ubiquitous pattern and put her own particular twist on it and to declare it as original - as in painting a design on an all-white dinner plate that may be eight-sided. Someone came up with a white, eight- sided dinner-plate, but I don't think that design is a copyrighted article today. However the white eight-sided, bite dinner plate with the original painting has copyright properties attached.
Sometimes, the tatting community runs amuck where cooright infringement details are not clearly understood. It is a complicated field and folks really do not comprehend what is copyright protected and what is not.
I'm confused as you're saying it's not right to infringe copyright and in the next part condoning it? I think you ought to re-think this last comment as you're actually encouraging people to take others' work and change it and call it their own. As I've said before - I haven't yet mentioned copyright so can't understand why you've brought up the subject. You obviously don't appreciate the hours and hours that go into a design and are now saying it's OK for other people to come along, take it, and then call it their own. I'm ending this conversation here as it's pointless.
DeleteYour stars are lovely Jane and they will certainly sparkle.
ReplyDeleteI have the original pattern torn from the magazine many years ago.( and long before I learned to tat) . Thanks for coming up with a way that doesn't need those metal motifs
ReplyDelete