23 September 2024

A twisted Monday moan

If there's anybody 'out there' who reads my blog be warned that today is going to be a BIG moan!!!  
I do read what's going on on Facebook but rarely take part except when I think I can help,  

On Saturday I popped into an interesting discussion on one of the groups about twisted picots.  One person claimed the copyright on this TECHNIQUE which is, as I understand it, not possible.  Techniques aren't copyrightable.  What the person doesn't seem to realise is that I used it MANY years ago in two patterns and I'm darn sure that it would've been done before me.   Anyway I couldn't find her page about this technique so I abandoned that!!!

Along comes another person who then decides that this technique is, in HER opinion, liable to having a name and two names at that!!!  The second 'name' comes because (as I did in the past) there's a double stitch between twisting the picot and joining back.  FOR GOODNESS SAKE - all we're doing is complicating matters - can't we just have one name and point out on a pattern to read carefully.

On another 'topic', which I read on a blog post, another tatter has renamed that old idea of posting the shuttle through the ring before tightening it.  She\s calling it after the name of the tatter she learned it from.  I can see why she did it as it is a good 'self reminder' but the problem here is that other people may adopt it too and thus the future history of tatting becomes a MESS.  Just saying - popping back to my knitting.

These are two patterns that have the twisted picot in and one has an additional double before joining back.  






8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, it’s the one really bad part of internet tatting which nobody enjoys. I’ve been tatting for almost 20 years, and can remember many blow- ups along the way. People get hurt, it’s ugly, and it just sends me and everyone else straight to the off- button.
It doesn’t seem to happen with other crafts, I knit and crochet as well, and have never experienced the unpleasantness in any of those online venues.
I honestly don’t understand why it happens, but I really with that it would all go away.

Jane Eborall said...

Anonymous - I agree with you totally. It’s ugly. I’ve tried to help one of the people mentioned in the post by popping a comment on her blog but she’s deleted it - twice. Tried emailing her but she won’t respond so future people will be calling that technique after somebody who really probably doesn’t want it to happen either. The new generation of tatters all want to be ‘famous/influencers’ in the craft and work hard to get there. Why not just enjoy it for the simple and pretty craft it is. I’ve almost given up tatting now. Give me knitting, crochet and sewing any day.

Jane McLellan said...

Trying again to comment. I don’t understand why anyone would want to copyright a technique. Tatters have usually been excited to share a discovery. Of course, many of those discoveries have actually been used before! I remember being a bit shocked to see a split ring in an Anne Orr book.

Rose Anne B said...

Ohhhhh noooooo, I pray not!!! 💞💞💞

Hallie said...

And more recently, on your TIAS Alien! I'm glad I'm not on that group; life is too short to deal with such people. It's bad enough in the groups I'm on where there are a few self-advertisers who are constantly posting about their pay-for-it lessons, patterns, threads, etc.

I have no problem buying patterns, but when so many folks, like you Jane, give so freely of their time and talent that the wanna-be "famous influencers" become truly annoying. Empathy on your MMMoan!

Hallie said...

And just to add, twisted picots are found in at least two projects for Tatters Across Time, which is over 20 years old

Judith Connors said...

I guess that I am showing my age when I see new terms for the same element/technique coming around for the third or fourth time. With all the technology available to a tatter-designer these days, a simple moment of research to check would deliver the rest of us from total confusion.

Martha said...

Well said. We've been around this merry-go-round before on different techniques, so wearying to do it again.

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